Brewpub permit

Regarding 30-16f, Does the production limit refer to the entire (1,2,3,4) license or only to the preceeding option (4) of selling to a wholesaler?

In other words: If you are not distributing your beers, can you only produce, for the sake of an example, 5 gallons?

Doing some dirty math, 5k gallons is about 110 pints of beer for each 365 days per year. That seems like it could be an impossible task if you wanted to create a small brewpub, especially one that would also carry other alcoholic beverages. (assuming you didn't distribute)

What are the other alternatives? Get a brewery license and then another permit and re-buy your beer from a distributor to sell at retail? Like others have mentioned in previous threads, you can't sell retail pints with a brewery license.

A manufacturer permit for a brew pub shall allow: (1) The manufacture, storage and bottling of beer, (2) the retail sale of alcoholic liquor to be consumed on the premises with or without the sale of food, (3) the selling at retail from the premises of sealed bottles or other sealed containers of beer brewed on such premises for consumption off the premises, and (4) the sale of sealed bottles or other sealed containers of beer brewed on such premises to the holder of a wholesaler permit issued pursuant to subsection (b) of section 30-17, provided that the holder of a manufacturer permit for a brew pub produces at least five thousand gallons of beer on the premises annually.

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Permalink Reply by Olde Burnside Brewing Company on September 4, 2012 at 12:59pm

You're reading it wrong. There is no limit on how much you can produce annually high or low, but if you want to package as a brewpub you must 5000 gallons per year, or just over 161 brewery barrels per year. If you are looking to do a nano style startup, look at probrewer.com or the threads on it, very informative.

Permalink Reply by Bryan Peretto on September 4, 2012 at 1:40pm

No, I wasn't suggesting it was a limit, rather a minimum requirement. A poor choice of wording on my part, sorry.

So, you answered that question - a brewpub must brew 5000 a year under that type of license.

Nano would be ideal, but I don't see anything in our state laws to accomodate that size. I wonder what firefly is doing because they intend to have a tap room which isn't covered under a manufacturer permit.

Permalink Reply by Broad Brook Brewing on September 4, 2012 at 1:47pm

You can sell pints from a tap room.

(NEW) (g) A manufacturer permit for beer and brew pub shall be in

all respects the same as a manufacturer permit for beer, as defined in

subsection

(f) A manufacturer permit for a brew pub shall allow: (1) The

manufacture, storage and bottling of beer, (2) the retail sale of alcoholic

liquor to be consumed on the premises with or without the sale of

food,

Permalink Reply by Bryan Peretto on September 4, 2012 at 5:01pm

I found the update by using your wording; thanks. It's at (for others):

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2012/act/pa/pdf/2012PA-00017-R00HB-05021-PA.pdf

I don't deny that a brewpub can sell pints- obviously there's many examples of that in the state; but the legislation still requires a minimum of 5k gallons brewed per year.

As an example, shipyard's nano brewery in Florida (28 gallon system) would have to brew 179 times a year. And I've seen other commercial breweries with systems even smaller than that! (NY, VT, etc..)

That's why I've never considered or recommended that anyone open a small brewpub in this state. A place, say, the size of Mikro where you have a few decent beers on tap and also 2 or 3 brewed on premises (not contract brewed). A room that size wouldn't be able to handle enough people to consistently push 128 pints a day 6 days a week.

I'm not personally considering it, but people ask for my advice on the subject all the time, so I like to be able to give an accurate statement.

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